March 2, 2003
How to torture a terrorist
Well, when he's a hairy monkey-man like this one, I'd suggest boiling hot waxing of his back hair--perhaps one hair at a time--by someone he'd find really repulsive...Perhaps Harvey Fierstein, in his Dame Edna get-up of course.
What do you guys think?
Posted by insomnomaniac at March 2, 2003 4:57 PM | TrackBackHow about installing him in the hole at Ground Zeroand letting survivor families take turns dealing with him.
Posted by: Stephen at March 2, 2003 6:39 PMGenius!!
My wife had me wax a small area on my leg so that I would stop mocking her pain when she complained about going to get a waxing.
OH THE AGONY!! I no longer mock her pain (now I just question her sanity).
I'd talk for sure if you did that to me ... and I'm not a "hairy monkey-man".
Posted by: David at March 2, 2003 11:31 PMDeb -- five out of the six voice messages they played at the end of Newsnight (CNN) voted "any means necessary" on the subject of interrogations. Dame Edna - good one. Where do we sign up ...
Posted by: Rick at March 3, 2003 12:09 AMSome good suggestions in today's Post
GRIEVING KIN: CUT OFF HIS FINGERS
By STEVE DUNLEAVY
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MISSING CHIEF RAY:
The surviving family members of 9/11 hero Chief Ray Downey Sr. (above) say that while the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is welcome, it's hard to celebrate.
- NYP: Mary McLoughlin
March 3, 2003 -- RAY Downey believes he has a perfect solution on how to treat the monster mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
"If he doesn't talk, cut off his fingers one at a time until he does," Ray said yesterday.
"Then if he doesn't talk at all, just cut his head off and burn it."
His brother Joe Downey told me, "Sounds pretty good to me."
Ray, a schoolteacher and wrestling coach, and brothers Joe and Chuck, both firefighters, are the sons of perhaps one of the greatest firefighters of all time, Chief Ray Downey Sr.
Downey Sr., chief of the Fire Department's Special Operations, was one of the countless heroes who perished when he charged into almost certain death at the World Trade Center in a desperate bid to save others.
"It's great they caught this guy [Mohammed], but we are still very bitter about what he did to us and thousands of other families," Joe said.
"I don't know a lot about the judicial system, but I just hope they don't go on with years of court appearances and arguments and lawyers.
"Sadly, there are a lot of people in this country who irritate me and who are not as patriotic as what this country, America, believes in.
"There shouldn't be too much confusion about how to treat this guy. Absolutely, they have to get as much out of him as they can. If not, a swift execution. No fooling around. Maybe death is too good for this guy."
Joe, together with brother Chuck, would leave their jobs at the firehouse and join Ray, the schoolteacher, to tirelessly go through the rubble of the pyre of unfathomable grief in search for their father day after day. His remains were one of the last to be found.
Despite Joe's relentless grief for his father, an icon in the department and the nation's most decorated firefighter, Joe goes to work today a little more relieved. He can look up from his desk at the Fire Department's Special Operations headquarters on Roosevelt Island and gaze at a big photo of his dad. They have the guy, Dad.
Whether it be fate, irony or just plain old decent destiny, Joe Downey is one of five chiefs of Special Operations - the same job his dad had served in and made heroic history.
It was Ray Downey who was commended by the state of Oklahoma for helping coordinate rescue work during another terror attack, the Oklahoma City bombing.
Joe was telling me: "I sit at a desk opposite where dad used to sit. I see that picture of him and sometimes I get, you know, a bit upset."
But today, Joe, it'll be a little bit better.
They got the sonofabitch.
Posted by: Stephen at March 3, 2003 9:57 AMHarvey Fierstein, of course, played Edna Turnblad in the Broadway production of John Waters' Hairspray.
It's my understanding that he waxed rather a lot.
Posted by: CGHill at March 5, 2003 8:48 PMI was away on vacation when I noticed on the cover of U.S. Today his picture. I didn't have time to read any of the story but I kept thinking why do they have a picture of John Belushi. Is he alive? Later that day I found out who he was and was glad that those rumors of him, Bin Ladin, and 8 other terrorists captured was true. I hope they can confirm Bin Ladin capture soon. Rumors on Pak,singapore sites are flying......and remember this.......WE DO NOT WANT HIM IN THIS COUNTRY !!! .... Some low life lawyer will try to get him out of jail.....gooday
Posted by: Observer at March 6, 2003 7:31 PMAs iv'e read in the above, the end justifies the means. We can take this back to Machiavelli's The Prince, in which he suggested the idealisms of "a ruler." Sure, this may be outdated, but do the principles not still stand in this day of worry. These terrorist clearly state that they do not fear death; they perfer it in the name of "Allah," this "God" that condones such brutal and cowardice actions in the sake of his name. Seeing these terrorist do not fear death, and take pride in declaring the strikes in which they take on innocents, we should experiment to understand if they do not fear torture. In Michael Levins essay "The Case For Torture," he exclaims how torture is a necessary and acceptable means for thwarting a terrorist strike, if the culprit is already in custody. Why not use any means necessary to get this person to stop the action from taking place, as long as it hasn't already. This passage I write is just in agreement with his, which I highly encourage reading (only about 3 pages) to understand why I take this stance.
God bless the heroes of this country who gave their life on 9/11 and in the name of 9/11.